This is the one he writes after the pandemic book, I don’t think it’s a coincidence
I forgot they put him in a mask. He spent the last half of his life insane. Probably my favorite poet. In this book he muses on the writings of Hölderlin’s “madness years” that have been regarded as illegible. Probably won’t find a copy on the web since it’s so new. He says Hölderlin’s insanity seems innocent next to the insanity our entire society has fallen in.
If I remember correctly, there’s an anecdote that when he was young he and his friend Hegel had to keep Kant books hidden in the wilderness somewhere and sneak off to read them. That’s what was controversial in those days? Take me back. It was expected of Hölderlin that he would be a theologian. He ended up finding more divinity in the Greeks and wrote religious poetry instead. I wonder if being between these two worlds led to his insanity at all.
Weird I was just talking about this yesterday
I thought I was the crazy one for even wondering that! What now?
Not gonna lie, I see signs of slightly insane thinking in that pandemic book of Agamben’s. This all drove him a bit crazy if you ask me. He claims that the Italian government shifted more than any other besides China’s during this time so maybe that’s part of it. I mean, the fact that he wrote this book next is evidence of that haha! I wonder if he feels responsible at all, for formulating the state of exception – do you think the authorities drew directly from his work? “It’s all my fault.”
Anyway, can you relate to Hölderlin at all, being expected to be a “theologian” of his time?
Looking at the historical context, he was still a teenager when the French Revolution began, so that was probably something that helped push him out of that path. Do we have anything like that? No.
Christianity, the Greeks? Could be reducible to a more simplistic reason
That would be a sight to see- a feminist inspiring someone to write poetry about her.
“You just had to say that huh?”
I mean…? To inspire poetry one almost has to be more beautiful than the poem itself – no easy task.
Anyway, it isn’t clear what was going on with this poet during the time of his reclusion
You think that Schopenhauer was cynical about the state? Perhaps Hölderlin only took that attitude to a further extreme?
One can’t expect a truly esoteric work on him from Agamben (a state boy) – see this post of mine for a hint about that. I just try to exploit the IQ of types like him, honestly.
Similar to Badiou?
with this work of his seems to take an increasingly decisive step in the direction of the last Heidegger
See the quote from Babylon’s Banksters here to understand why these postwar thinkers could be of use to us. In Alfarabi’s sense, the peak of wisdom was achieved. Then it was confiscated and reappropriated. Philosophy had to go into hiding. With ones like Agamben we can still learn from their reappropriation.
Speaking of untimeliness, another theory about the poet
Another friend of his youth, Schelling, believed it was an outward appearance and that he wasn’t really insane. His poetry was the solution to the death of God, in Heidegger’s mind. Just prior to the onset of WW2, in the Beiträge, explains his madness as being a result of suffering the uprootedness which the West was being pulled toward, and that he of anyone poetized furthest into the future.
This question of his can perhaps still be asked over 80 years later
Or does this history remain inaccessible to us as a ground of Dasein, not because it is past but, on the contrary, because it is still too futural for us?
We’re talking about the birth of New Gods here. I think that is still too futural a thought. If anything could drive someone crazy it might be a thought like that.
Returning to the oldest (the Greeks) for the newest, a new beginning
It isn’t just Badiou who is working on something like that today. This is how Dugin ends his latest Beitrag
Consider how Laruelle describes Badiou
For he alone has had the courage to openly advocate it, to have assertively and consciously combined the conceptuality of Western philosophy with Maoism.
Badiou wants a Cultural Revolution. Whereas Dugin represents a revolution beyond Marxism itself. They’re both grandsons of their country’s respective revolution. Did Badiou not learn from studying Russia’s? Maybe Dugin has more of a right to speak on that. And of course his perspective is discounted by these French who never even have tried real Marxism. “No one has!” Okay, why do I trust a Maoist to speak? You put people who are smarter than you in gulags. “Found out!” Speaking of reclusion and madness…
Another synchronicity in the Beiträge
That is what I see both Laruelle and Dugin as doing- preparing for philosophy. They probably don’t understand themselves that way- that’s how I see them. While I know people don’t want to hear it (to say the least!) when I think of this concept of “futural”, Faurisson and those like him are who cross my mind first.
Ears to hear
Jeers to jeer, if you ask me.
We don’t have to follow Heidegger directly. It doesn’t have to be poetry that is most futural. I find that, personally, in historiography and humor.
I hate how those Irish are controlling the meaning of Being!
I find it funny how Agamben, one of the more refined spirits of the age, the thinker of our time of the state of exception, has lived through COVID
For almost a year I have lived every day with Hölderlin
Maybe the above has given you some sort of clue of what that might have been like for him.