So the Chinese have been reading Hölderlin for a century?

I have a feeling they might interpret his writings on “homeland” with less bias than any westerner. To the Sinonet I go

He has never stopped enthusiastically listening to the voice in his heart and nature that makes him be with the divine secrets. The divine secrets sleep in all things. Therefore, he knows many future possibilities in advance: The higher image of mankind

Zarathustra alludes to him in this way- listening to his heart. And you can see the other clear parallel here. When neech was a schoolboy he and Goethe were the greatest German poets – both pretty much unknown in the US.

Imagine reading this about Biden, or any swamp creature for that matter

“Germans with Chinese Characteristics” – I haven’t looked much into that yet, might be something there.

First of all, he sang with a heavy heart that people have abandoned the gods… From then on, people feared death and accepted all shame in order to maintain an oyster-like life.

If you think of that concept of “rootlessness” this is actually a politically incorrect thing for this Chinaman to say

Since Holderlin had an early insight into the plight of homelessness brought about by the new general division, he was extremely lonely as a poet. How much he hopes to return to his hometown with the gods as soon as possible.

Is there a connection between atheism and the spirit of cosmopolitanism? What does it mean to be exiled from the Holy Land anyway? Are we all in that state now?

The Chinese know how to “put it different”

The Greek humanity he admired is this kind of love that respects the beauty of the gods. 

If you haven’t read the Greek tragic plays I highly suggest you do- they define art in my mind. They’ll probably change you.

I look at Hölderlin and his near-/contemporaries as a sort of “Second Protestantism”. The “dang kids these days” think they’re being novel when they recognize the emptiness of organized religion. These old German writers tended to find something more spiritual in the Ancient Greeks. And I for one, in turn, found something more spiritual in them. They then led me to the Greeks. There’s different ways of thinking about “God”, and so many resort to atheism instead. Zeus, Apollo, Geist, Will, etc. These make more contact with reality than secularism, at least in my experience. Why would an oyster care to seek our an alternative?

Art can do that. The idea of “miracles” sounds like nonsense then you unexpectedly experience a deus ex machina in a play and your perception of that concept shifts.

You might have heard Hölderlin’s most famous statement, that “where the danger is, also grows the saving power”? This Chinaman says something similar regarding secularism

people can realize their hometown only when they are forced to wander away from home

This is what I expect from the West in general – or at least I hope. That this time of secularism is needed in order to, eventually, truly understand the divine.

This is one of the first results on the Sinonet. The English reception of this poet tends to avoid or be critical of this theme of his work. It might make you wince to hear- that there seems to be a connection between a people, the place they live, and the god they believe in. And what do we have today? Antiracism, cosmopolitanism, atheism – the direct opposite of this, that when reading Hölderlin, seems so essential to living a good life.

He’d never have the thought to “build a wall”, what are you talking about?

A people, a nation, a religion – who needs it!

This Chinese article is good though if you disagree.

It itself is something poetic

You must enter the elements from the scenery, love the breath and words of the elements in the scenery, and respect the elements and their secrets… What is the whole meaning of this poem? Be a poet who loves “human secrets”. This secret includes not only the secret between humans and beasts, but also the secrets between humans, gods, and heaven and earth. You must promise to love the secret of time.

Makes me laugh to think that Philosophy of Poetry book isn’t poetic at all. Maybe that’s the only way one can talk about poetry, to be one with it?

This reminds me of those Russian pagans that believe in pre-christian elemental forces

He regarded the Greek gods as real powers. For him, the duty of the poet is to act as an intermediary between God and man.

Might find some aliens on the Sinonet

If this offends you consider how Heidegger believed himself to be preparing the way.

This is so arrogant and cantankerous though isn’t it? I miss the poetic interpretation of his poetry from that other article. There’s an ugliness to truth that beauty can’t be said to have. Is there an illusion to beauty that truth can’t be said to have? Part of me wants to say, even if there’s illusion, I want more beauty! Wow, the one moment in the year that I think Socrates deserved his hemlock. I’ll have to find some poets who write about poetry.

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