Might as well go with a contemporary of Virgil’s while I’m at it- Cicero. He is where we find the first recorded use of the word “religio“. Also “superstitio“. Are people too imprisoned in superstitio to care about the difference between these two? If not, the fact of these two words seems to suggest that there is a form of religio that isn’t superstitio. We tend to equate them now and I wonder if we’re right to, or if we’re right about this following mode of being
Is that the religio of modern times? Or is it more precisely a superstitio?
What was the state religio like back in Cicero’s time? He was one of the ones who “ran” it so perhaps we sceptics might find reason to doubt whether religio is truly religio. As in the case of Virgil, Cicero was influenced by Plato. This is a thinker–and orator–who wrote his own versions of the Republic and Laws. Would you trust him to tell you what religio in an authentic sense is? I’m going to guess that his personal religio had more to do with the Ideas than it had to do with the gods Jupiter, Juno, Minerva, and the like.
How about our own Ciceros? I get the impression from them that they believe in Jupiter, Juno, Minerva. They could be sneaky, I don’t know. I don’t really see Ciceros in the environs. Those are frogs, if anyone could be counted as Ciceros. And those are pretty much disappeared from the internet last time I checked. You need to believe in the misleading gods of the state, or else. Do YOU believe in the goddess Minerva? If you get mad about some of the things I say then the chances are that you do in fact believe in something like this level of conception of the divine. Not quite though because we have “ideas” now instead of gods, that’s the meaning of secularism. It’s a question of whether those ideas themselves are crude, “artistic”, not purely rational. I.e. it’s a question of whether there are Ideas rather than just those ideas. And in my experience there are. People get upset about that. Think of the media like Virgil. They have their own “idea of the ideas” and it isn’t even close to as precise as Plato’s idea of it. Look at some of the problems of the education system that I “discussed” earlier. It’s pretty easy to explain why they believe in these misleading gods of theirs. That teacher of classical education himself said that not even the kind of school he teaches at is similar to the older, more rigorous pedagogical system. So even a good deal, if not most, of our “elites” missed out on that. They are not Ciceros. Put differently, everyone is reading only Virgil, i.e. myth. They believe in those gods, even if there is a fantastical story tale element about them. Not that they realize that even exists, because if they were aware of the more sharpened Ideas then they’d cease to believe in those gods. Put differently again- Jupiter, aka the Roman Zeus, really is identified with by the Radhanites. It’s a totally mythical understanding of themselves. Or think of Minerva, aka the Roman Athena- feminists believe themselves to be goddesses. “Am I not?” You’re not beyond reproach, I know that. You might act like you are. I don’t believe in your religion, sadly. This is the way that I flirt with a goddess obviously. I just don’t think it’s realistic the way they think so highly of themselves, same with the jids. Your religion looks like it’s in the fantasy genre when one takes a glance at someone like Cicero, that’s all.