Ah so this is where he might’ve picked that up from

Schlegel thought that this Aristophanic artform contained the most Freedom and Joy of any. I jump from painting to this because I can intuit the truth of that. Can’t you? In other words, I want the most freedom and joy in my life at the moment so why would I stick with painting?

I wasn’t even looking for Schlegel this time, I googled “aristophanes moliere” and his name popped up.

Laughter is pretty great, right? Suppose we could use these “Renaissance” figures to create a science that could lead to an even higher laughter never before experienced. Either they’re forgotten like Schlegel, or interpreted exclusively by progs like Hegel.

Friedrich in the essay in question is again like his brother in getting on France’s case, this time for their dismissal of Aristophanes.

Think of it in this hegemon-subhegemon context again

“FOG” set the tone for what counted as “culture”. Schlegel wrote this in the middle of the French Revolution when everything was up in the air.

It’s like looking at it for the first time, reading him. Staged satire is a ritual that brings people together to collectively celebrate Joy. And for him, it’s only possible if there’s freedom of expression.

What if Hegel is right that it’s the highest artform. What if the highest artform wasn’t allowed?

I think I’m starting to solve the mystery of why the US doesn’t seem like a Dutch painting.

The hidden noumenon

(((German poet))) who despised the vile Ostjuden. Coincidences.

I’m going to have to do a post on the Wasps later

the first extensive and thorough work of political (and social) criticism in the Western literary tradition

“Why don’t you do a post on the Wops?” Are you really going to be racially insensitive to me, I have feelings you know.

For the genealogists, here’s some moar Atlantean secondary literature on him if this is up your alley

If you’re one of the cynics that understands the “Enlightenment” didn’t change human nature and that the people will never understand reason, then this should be an important subject to you, supposing that you agree with Hegel. It’s the best way to talk to the herd.

Looking for a handy list on who and what Aristophanes aims to make people laugh about, I find this provisional one from a sociological study on him

This is far from exhaustive. It’s also well-known for instance that Socrates was one of his targets as well as certain demagogues like Cleon. Can you imagine being a distinguished statesman who people are scared to address with anything besides unwavering respect, and you’re sitting in the audience expecting to have a good laugh, and all of a sudden YOU’RE the one being made a joke of! Aristophanes did this to people. It was 24 years after his play about Socrates was first performed that Socrates was put to death. You think that play didn’t affect Socrates’ psychology at all? Anyway, in our own time it is only the “Socrateses” who are allowed to be mocked, and none of the demagogues. Let’s go back to Schlegel- wouldn’t it give you the most Joy and Freedom in the world to see “our demagogue” taunted and mocked in a hilarious manner? So we should go back to where all this started so we’re not learning from mere simulacra of him, Aristophanes the primal clown. How to build your own nukes, how to build the deadliest jokes possible, there must “designs” out there, and we can probably find help from our much-misinterpreted Greek and German friends.

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