An earlier exit from Europe- to Iceland. This was in the 800s. People from Norway, England, Scotland, and Ireland sailed there.

I’m looking at a book on Wagner that was written in Iceland. It claims about 80% of his sources are from there. I’m looking at this as similar to Voltaire’s plays during the French Revolution and Scott’s novels during the Southern Revolution. Wagner’s operas during the German Revolution. What was it about Iceland? Was it the last pagan stronghold away from the Christian menace?

What an odd place. Between the years 900 and 1262

there was no king, no government and no hereditary aristocracy. The Church was under the domination of secular leaders.

This was when they wrote their myths. I feel like grabbing a Judaeo-Christian by the throat when I study this sort of thing. So, the Nazis remembered those old times, did they?

“Just think of LOTR, just think of LOTR, forget about all that! Frodo Baggins!” Nah, you can be a hobbit though. As reactionary as Tolkien was in certain ways LOTR is a slave-story like all the rest in a sense. Elf protagonists I want.

These myths from Iceland only began to be translated into other languages after the age of enlightenment in Europe. By that I mean to voice the suspicion that similar myths were probably written in Europe and burned by throne and altar that didn’t exist in Iceland in the same way. They were a quiet, isolated people of fewer than 50,000 at the time of the beginning of the age of enlightenment. People in Europe didn’t really know much about them. These myths were a kind of time-capsule. (Scott’s adventures are similar in being historical fictions.) Since they were translated they have been known as “urdeutsch”. And remember from my post about the Brothers Grimm, that a couple centuries ago people of the British Isles were thought of as Germanic.

Ha, of course, you rodents

With prog-goggles we can never know how warranted this is

Remember my post on Beowulf, how that writing takes place between pagan and christian worlds? The myths from Iceland are purely pagan. And LOTR it could be said is more similar to Beowulf in this way. We arguably do not have any great works that are adaptations from the old pre-christian times outside of Wagner.

For the first 300 years, the Icelanders weren’t serfs like most of Europe, they were land-owning farmers minding their own business. That’s when they wrote their myths down. You weren’t burned at the stake if you weren’t a strict Christian. Without those volcanoes that formed Iceland we would have forgotten most of the old way of thinking. The earliest Scottish writing for instance was written in the margins of 12th century Latin Gospels.

Hmm I don’t think so

Schimmelmann also sought to demonstrate that the doctrines of the Eddas and the Bible were in fact the same, as a beneficent God does not discriminate between humans, and loved the ancient Nordic peoples, just as he loves the Jews.

This was early reception in the 1700s.

Remember that Dutch painting of Jesus? I don’t think he fits this description

Superhuman warriors were most likely to be found in the romantic Heroic Sagas, such as Volsunga saga and Ragnars saga lodbrókar.

The Voltaire of the German Revolution- I just want to know the essence of the materials he drew from. An island of ice severed from early Christendom.

Here is Wagner from his autobiography on the literature of Iceland

I was to light upon the fair young form of Man, in all the freshness of his force.

What do you mean I write about these things in a “mood of bloodthirst”? You mean to tell me that’s the natural result when the last traces of christianity and cladistic christianity fall away?

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