What I think about is how all those magical ceremonies in the Golden Dawn were necessary for Yeats to formulate this stuff

These cones, or gyres, represent the opposites in the nature of each person or country or historical period.

Yes, I’m still thinking about these things

If you want to get really “out there” for a second, the US and China probably aren’t the only civilizations that can be portrayed with sort of model- maybe extraterrestrial civilizations could be placed in an even broader one. Let’s just forget about that for now.

I remember Crowley talking somewhere about how magical ceremonies are about “results”. A Vision seems to be one of those results. This is what Christian churches seem to forget- there are often no spiritual results from attending them.

The gyres! The gyres!
beauty dies of beauty, worth of worth

He’s clarifying things to me better than Spengler. Same with Finnegans Wake. Why have all these been forgotten, no one interprets them in ways that could get them in trouble. Note the background to these names as well- the eternal return.

Anyway if I had to guess, you would have to take part in magical ceremonies to understand Yeats. What, are you telling me I’m just looking for an excuse to do that? Whoops you caught me. Evola was like this too. There’s a connection between gnosis and fascism people don’t want to think about. Then the Shi’ists are seen as an intrinsically esoteric religion.

So which cone do you think the US is, the primary gyre or the antithetical gyre?

It amuses me to remember that before Phidias and his westward-moving art, Persia fell, and when full moon came round again, amid eastward-moving thought, and brought Byzantium glory, Rome fell; and that at the outset of our westward-moving Renaissance Byzantium fell; all things dying each other’s life, living each other’s death.

Somewhat of a similarity with Crowley’s hexagram

He and Kenneth Grant and various others like Dion Fortune were always talking about New Aeons. You can see Crowley actually as ushering in the New Aeon of the hippies. He was excited for that. Yeats on the other hand had a pessimistic view of that sort of trajectory. If you want to get real schizo with this I suggest you read Grant, I’ll “spare” you from that one for now.

This almost seems like a death of god image here

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer

The falcon, generally, flies in ever-widening circles away from its trainer and returns when called back. But in the poem, the falcon can no longer hear the falconer’s cry. Yeats’s falcon travels in gyres and is lost from its return.

That Spare painting above was just a coincidence.

Meanwhile, Crowley’s whole thing was “Who needs a falconer? I’m a freebird!” And we live in the Crowleyan New Aeon.

The primary gyre and the antithetical gyre can also be seen as the sephiroth and the qliphoth.

Beauty dies of beauty. We developed science and technology and that arguably was the end of us as well.

Whoa, if you want to connect up his poems even more, this is from “Blood and the Moon”

And the Great Wheel is also the Moon

Each spoke signifies the twenty-eight possible selves, each being a mask of the one opposite. The twenty-eight spokes represent phases of each person’s life and the phases of each cycle of world history.

It’s funny to think these are the kinds of epiphanies he probably had during magical ceremonies.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: