Sticking with the theme from yesterday – παιδεία – charred papyrus was discovered underneath the ashes of the Vesuvius eruption and they’ve been reconstructing the text recently as a few years ago

Plato’s Academy existed for 300 years. Established in 387 BC. Aristotle joined it in 367 BC. Aristotle wanted to take over after Plato died and they didn’t let him. Must have been some conflict between them? They have the names of every “dean” in unbroken succession.

So, this is similar to what H calls inception regarding the beginning in the pre-Socratics. What’s the inception of institutional education look like?

Apparently, throughout the generations there was no orthodoxy or “constitution” or set dogmas. Even the first generation after Plato’s death for instance the Theory of Forms was abandoned.

While writing this that old Greek guy brought over a rack of lamb, this is awesome. He calls them lollipops.

Anyway, Sulla destroyed the city the Academy was in during a Roman civil war, and it was only after that time that something known as “Platonism” began to exist. This is what the scholars that were scattered began to call it.

During its existence each successive dean would shift the attitude of what the norm of the focus should be. So it took about 300 years to finally solidify into an “ism”. One of the only constants throughout those years was (expectedly) a pronounced emphasis on the dialectic method. Perhaps not coincidentally another constant was the de-emphasis on what we usually today call “empiricism”, i.e. the sense-perceptions were increasingly distrusted as the dialectic continued.

This was modeled off Plato’s teaching style itself. He didn’t “lecture”, he had dialogues and debates with people.

That reminds me, I don’t think many of my professors liked me, because I was always trying to debate them, and that’s not “proper” these days. Just the right question that I know they don’t have an answer to, people love that, don’t they?

During its existence the Academy was a political “think-tank” that influenced the Greek world. Members of it would be sent to cities to reform their constitutions for instance. And besides being a debate forum generally it also contained a sector that offered political advice.

The most comprehensive history of the Academy extant–the Pompeii one by Philodemus–was only translated into English in 2015.

This is interesting

speaks of two circles of students, one of ‘insiders’ undertaking the highest theoretical studies and one of ‘outsiders’ more interested in practical, profitable matters such as rhetoric and politics.

This is what Vesuvius has left us with unfortunately

Plato’s first successor had statues built outside of the school

‘These [divine] goddesses, the Graces, Speusippus dedicated to the divine Muses as a gift for the sake of learned achievements.’

Something similar to Christianity’s Holy Ghost? Anyway Plato personally chose Speusippus. Xenocrates was the next dean, and that was decided by vote.

Eh this subject just makes me sad, because people aren’t based enough for the Based University. They’d rather settle for scattered posers and pseuds that are hardly different from the institutional sellouts. People are just secretly fine with being ignorant slaves.

Anyway, watch I’m going to find something about “hook-nosed schemes” bribing one of these deans somewhere down the line in this Philodemus history. Nah. Unless?

Some of the dialogues attributed to Plato that are also of questionable authorship are speculated to have been written by these “deans” and their students.

You aren’t allowed to deviate from doctrines in today’s academy

the Old Academy could not have depended for its unity, like the Stoic and Epicurean schools, upon any commitment to promote and build upon a single set of doctrines associated with its founder. All had doctrines, and all were indebted to Plato, but this did not involve doctrinal uniformity

Achilles’ bravery and Odysseus’ cleverness, i.e. their fusion in inπαιδεία, are not allowed.

Notice how I’m a Platonist with the URL that I have? Similar dynamic. Using the two together for dialectics’ sake.

-turns to Plato- Why do I talk to these subhumans?

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